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The Dream is over.
By Norm Seeley | January 19, 2009
Last week, on the 15Th, Karen and I received a note from the lead pastor at E3 church, Mark Einersen who was announcing his resignation and return to Dayton, Ohio. I’m sad to see Mark and his family go, but I can understand.
With this move, it truly ends a dream started by Todd Anderson.
DVC merged after Todd left and Mark took over into E3. I suppose you could say, that’s really when the dream died.
Karen and I were involved in DVC at the beginning.
I planned the original sound system. Recorded the sermons weekly, first on audio cassettes, then video taped them and that continued until Todd left and then picked up again under Mark.
Karen helped with the office and administration as well as designed it’s Logo and Websites both in the beginning and under Mark.
We left E3, back in October of last year.
Several years ago, DVC purchased land and was almost to the point of building a structure with an auditorium and classrooms. But at the very last minute, it fell apart. Later, the land was sold.
E3 as it is now, is not the dream that DVC was.
In my view, the DVC Dream has now really come to an end.
That, makes me for one, sad.
Topics: Scottsdale Arizona | 11 Comments »
January 19th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Norm- I think I totally hear what you’re saying. I went throuh something similar with the church I grew up in. After 20 years the dream not only ended- it exploded and many were injured by the schrapnel. It is sad to see things come to an end. I was sad, but I’ve watched as the lives that were intertwined over the years never came “untwined”- people are still connected in various ways- different ways but still the bonds are there- and I know they always will be. Just like the lives you and Karen have been intertwined with over the years.
But I have to believe that God’s dream- the dream to reach people will never come to an end. The methods may change the buildings may change, but His dream, “This Gospel shall be preached to the ends of the earth and then the end shall come…”- That dream has yet to be realized.
I am excited to see how it will continue to be fulfilled by E3. Trust me when I say the seeds you planted for the last decade will not be in vain. E3 looks different but the passion you had for God and to reach this community with his love will continue. I thank you and Karen for your obedience in building God’s dream!
God is not surprised at how things have turned out, I believe that He is the master chess player moving things around, not just at E3 but throughout his entire body. Positioning people and furthering his strategy and I have a feeling…a good one…that it won’t be too long before he says, “Check Mate.” We have big job to do and I’m so glad we’re all on the same team to make it happen. We love you!
January 19th, 2009 at 2:56 pm
Metro, As a man, I am sad the Dream of DVC is over, but God’s plans must have moved on. I don’t believe that Karen or I have been injured with the end of the DVC Dream, not at all. I believe that God wants me to be somewhere else, maybe even do something else. When the time is right, he will let me know what I’m to do. That too, I know will happen.
January 19th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
I hear ya! And I know it will be good!
It will happen.
January 19th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Norm—I agree—in one sense, God’s plan is not a “dream” at all—mankind are the ones dreaming and there are those who finally “wake up” to Him—DVC and E-3 and any other church are merely little “stages” in that plan….after all, “all the world’s a stage”—but it’s really God’s stage, not ours, and all of the actors and actresses (all of us) merely act out a part of God’s plan, don’t we. And there are many others who watch us, whichever little stage (church, as it were) that we’re currently in–and we still have the same “Director” no matter what “stage” we’re currently at—and someday, we’ll all be reunited in the best “stage” of all–heaven! But, on that stage, we won’t be “acting” at all—it will be the final performance before the Director and we will all, everyone of us actors and actresses, be present at the same time and in the same place finally, to hear our Director say, “Good job! Wrap it up!” No more “little stages” after that! Until then, we can encourage and applaud our fellow actors and actresses (those who know the Lord) in all the scattered little stages (churches) as they bring God’s (the Director’s) great plan (NOT a dream) to completion and Final Cut! I just hope I’m a good actress….I do want to please the Director and hear Him tell me, “Good Job!”
January 19th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
Using the word Dream might not have been the right word to use. Plan might fit. Calling also could have replaced Dream. I also separate DVC from E3. There is still a Dream, Plan, Calling out there for E3.
January 19th, 2009 at 10:06 pm
Norm & Karen
This is for You and Karen, AND Me and Pat. Find a church, love the message and fellowship, and hope the pastor will know your name at your funeral! The hard part is finding the Church!
Love you two!
Kris
January 19th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Just so the paper spells my name correctly. Norman Austin Seeley Jr.
January 23rd, 2009 at 10:29 am
Just curious. I was interested in pastoring DVC when it was last opened. The eladership chose another man. I noticed today that e3 is now open again. I don’t know all the reasons but am interested again. I guess I’m one of these guys that believes dreams, plans, vision, whatever, can be resurrected or redirected. I liked what I saw of it before and think it still has a future. If you don’t mind me asking, what do you think killed it or caused a decline in the dream and what could give it “new life”? You can email me privately if you so desire. I’d love to hear your heartfelt comments. God bless.
January 23rd, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Thanks Paul for your comment. I have sent you an email with my views…
January 24th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Norm, I have been doing some demographic studies on Scottsdale about possibly planting a church. I ran across your comment about Pastor Mark leaving and then the comment by Paul. If you could I would like a copy of the email you sent to Paul. I have already been in touch with the contact person. Thank you for all your help, and my prayer is that God will bless you in your efforts reaching the world.
January 24th, 2009 at 11:58 am
Pastor Tim, thank you too for your interest. I have sent an email and will be more than happy to let you know “my view” of what is going on. Just remember to consider the source.